This year, I recorded 30 conversations on AI, technology, geopolitics, and the economy.
What follows is a 20-minute edit, a way in. If you only had 20 minutes to orient on key ideas that were top of mind in 2025 and will hold as we step into the new year, these are the ideas I’d start with:
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Part 1 - AI as a general purpose tech
2:27: Why this matters
3:06: Kevin Weil: The test for a startup’s longevity
4:01: Matthew Prince: The “Socialist” pricing debate
4:45: Tyler Cowen: This will stifle the AI boom
7:42: Nicholas Thompson: The “NBA-ification” of journalism
8:13: Kevin Kelly: From utopia to protopia
Part 2 - How work is changing
10:13: An evolving labor market
10:45: Steve Hsu: The future of education
11:27: Thomas Dohmke: The inspectability turning point
12:09: Ben Zweig: The new role for entry-level workers
13:16: Ben Zweig: The eroding signal of higher education
Part 3 - The physical world, compute, and energy
14:05: Setting the stakes
14:51: Greg Jackson: “We’re half way across the road. We have to get across as fast as we can.”
15:27: Greg Jackson: Building a “show, don’t tell” company
16:12: Dan Wang: The physical reality of AI
Part 4 - The changing US-China landscape
16:57: A new era
18:09: Dan Wang: The West’s hidden tech gap
18:38: Jordan Schneider: The two types of accelerationism
19:38: Jordan Schneider: What the US can learn from China
Go deeper into the full conversations
Kevin Weil - OpenAI CPO on what’s coming next in AI
Matthew Prince - Inside the collapse of the internet economy
Tyler Cowen - How AI will reorder economies, schools, and spirituality
Nick Thompson - AI and the future of media
Kevin Kelly - The handoff to “bots”
Steve Hsu - The difference between early and late AI adopters
Ben Zweig - Where did all the entry-level jobs go?
Thomas Dohmke - What AI means for developer salaries, SaaS, and more
Greg Jackson - The future of clean energy
Dan Wang - Why China builds while America debates
Jordan Schneider - Inside the US–China decoupling
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