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Gianni Giacomelli's avatar

On the topic of which organizational model is better for ensuring resilience, including energy resilience I think the discussion is very productive. They have always been different models, such as bureaucracy, communities, and markets. Increasingly bureaucracy have become unable to keep pace partially because of who is leading them. The example of Heathrow and the examples of regulations for nuclear are two immediately come to mind. Obviously economy is a scale economies of scope, learning curves, etc., are a play and dictate the economic fundamentals of which of these operating models should be ideally more suited to do the job. But the fact remains that with the demographic shift and the complacency that we have built in Western societies are a bureaucracies are increasingly punching way below their weight.

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margaret c's avatar

i wish conversations on US military spend would mention the strategic benefits accrued to the US economy. ChatGPT estimated $10+ trillion below.

Putting a precise dollar value on the strategic benefits the U.S. gains from its military presence in Europe is difficult, but we can estimate its economic and geopolitical impact in broad terms. Hereโ€™s a breakdown:

### **1. Economic Gains from Stability & Trade (~$5-10 Trillion Over Decades)**

- The U.S. benefits from a stable Europe, which is its largest trading partner. In 2023, U.S.-EU trade was worth **$1.3 trillion**. A secure Europe ensures uninterrupted economic activity.

- Without NATO, Europe might have faced more conflicts, disrupting trade and investment. Stability has enabled consistent economic growth benefiting U.S. corporations.

- The U.S. dollar remains dominant in global transactions partly due to its role as Europeโ€™s security guarantor, reinforcing its global financial influence.

### **2. Defense Industry Profits (~$100-200 Billion Annually, Growing)**

- U.S. military presence in Europe drives European defense spending, much of which goes to American firms.

- European NATO members significantly increased defense budgets after 2014. In 2023 alone, European countries spent over **$90 billion on U.S. weapons**.

- Countries like Germany and Poland are now committing to long-term U.S. military contracts, ensuring steady revenue for American defense contractors.

### **3. Energy & Economic Leverage (~$500 Billion - $1 Trillion Over Time)**

- The U.S. benefits from influencing European energy policy, particularly in reducing dependence on Russian gas.

- After Russiaโ€™s invasion of Ukraine, Europe shifted to **U.S. liquefied natural gas (LNG), with U.S. LNG exports to Europe reaching $50 billion annually**.

- U.S. companies gain from strategic partnerships, market access, and preferential trade agreements tied to security commitments.

### **4. Geopolitical Influence (Priceless, But Letโ€™s Estimate ~$1 Trillion in Soft Power Value)**

- The U.S. military presence in Europe ensures European alignment with U.S. foreign policy.

- It prevents the rise of a fully independent European military force that could challenge U.S. influence.

- U.S. military bases in Europe serve as forward operating locations for global power projection (e.g., Middle East, Africa).

### **Total Estimated Strategic Value:**

Over the long term, the U.S. has likely **gained $10+ trillion** in economic and strategic benefits from its military role in Europe. While direct profits may not offset military costs year-to-year, the broader economic and geopolitical advantages far outweigh the expenses.

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Mike Groen's avatar

Please do the 'great Robotics session'! Soon!

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