๐Ÿ“– AI and the Future of Warfare

My conversation with General Sir Richard Barrons
๐Ÿ“– AI and the Future of Warfare

Earlier this year I had a thought-provoking conversation with an extraordinary man, whoโ€™s thought about the current challenges at the nexus of technology and society from a perspective of a highly experienced military leader. General Sir Richard Barrons ย KCB, CBE, was the Commander of the Joint Forces Command until his retirement in 2016. With Richard, I dig deep into the future of warfare, resilience, and what the greatest threats to the Western society will be in the coming decade.

Listen to my full conversation with Richard here, or read the members-only transcript below.


Azeem Azhar: Richard, it's wonderful to have you on the Exponential View podcast.

Richard Barrons: Thank you for having me.

AA: When I studied international relations back in the late '80s, early '90s, war and conflict seemed quite simple. There were two sides, and they used deterrents, and we read the works of Graham Allison and John Lewis Gaddis, and it just seemed that we understood what the rules were, we understood what war looked like, and who the parties were. And yet here we are, less than 30 years later, it seems much more complicated.

RB: It is much more complicated, and we really shouldn't be surprised by this. There are two truisms about war. The first is, the nature of war never actually changes. It just always has this brutal and feral and dangerous and uncontrollable aspect of human behaviour which we've singularly failed to eradicate so far, and we tend to forget, often between generations, just how brutal warfare can be.

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